U.S. President Donald Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, said Russia’s concern over the eastward enlargement of NATO was fair and the United States did not want to see Ukraine in the U.S.-led military alliance.

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    Because regardless of the name of the country, Russians have always pursued Continential Imperialism?

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      wow… lots of NATO countries in this list, huh?

      It’s hilarious too that it count countries liberated from nazis during WW2 as if they were being invaded to be annexed (implied by your “continental imperialism” quip). There’s lots of other questionable ones in your list too (Vietnam? invaded by the USA!)

      Also, Russia != USSR, but who cares about facts if they stand in the way of a good ol’ Russia bashing, right?

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        <wow…lots of NATO counties in this list, huh?>

        Quite a few, Poland, the Baltics, Finland, etc. They all know that they could be the next Ukraine, and why they joined NATO.

        Your ww2 comment makes no sense. All of those actions listed from 1938 to 1945 were offensive in nature. I would love for you to explain your way out of a paper bag how the Soviet Union “liberated” Poland in 1939.

        Great whataboutism with the US though! You got me there and totally destroyed my argument. (In 1961 the USSR begun sending troops, advisors, and material to the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in support of their war with South Vietnam. Yes, they were very involved in the war)

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          They all know that they could be the next Ukraine

          Ukraine as a country didn’t even exist at the time the URSS was formed. Its current territory was literally split between Russia and Poland.

          All of those actions listed from 1938 to 1945 were offensive in nature

          I concede that I was wrong about Poland and Finland. But you’re wrong in the timeline between 1941 and 1945. After Hitlet tried to invade the USSR, they paid a heavy price in human lives and became the nazi’s worst enemies because of that.

          Great whataboutism with the US though!

          Vietnam was a proxy war. Yes, they were very involved in the war. But the one that got rebuked was the USA, they even got boots on the ground and lost anyway.

          And I reiterate my point: Russia != USSR. Your “continential imperialism” is bullshit.