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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 days ago

    Oh that reminds me it’s probably time to replace my helmet. I bought it around 2019 I think. What’s the frequency supposed to be? Like every 5 years or so?

    • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.ioOPM
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      Absolutely replace it after a crash. The manufacturers say replace every 3 to 5 years, but I’ve heard some say that they’re actually fine longer as long as the impact foam is still intact and they haven’t been stored in direct sunlight/harsh conditions.

      Then again, I haven’t seen anything definitive on them being better for longer and you’ve only got one brain, so I’d err on the side of caution. If you keep an eye on Slickdeals.net, you can get some killer deals. I actually picked up a MIPS helmet that was featured in the VT helmet study for $25 a couple months ago, but even without sales you should be able to find a good one for under $100.

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    I was 16 when I busted my face open from a bicycle ramping accident, without a helmet. I ripped my chin flesh off my jawbone when that happened.

    I’ve always wondered what’s the deal with helmets having that visor part in the front. If I had been wearing one of those when that happened, it would have pushed my head further back and broke my neck…

    I’m still alive today, because I wasn’t wearing a helmet.

    • vxx@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Don’t Helmes limit the movement to the backside to keep your neck from breaking?

      • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.ioOPM
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        Yes and the anchor points will also give way before your neck does (which is exactly what happened when I crashed: My neck, along with the rest of my head and face: all completely fine, but the helmet was toast).

        That guy is totally full of shit and should be ignored: Wear a helmet!

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        I’m pretty sure that’s part of the general design intent yes, but you’d have to know the exact angle of my impact. Chin first, left side, dragging upwards, from about 6 feet in the air, tire level, which means my head started off about 9 feet in the air. It also jammed my glasses into my forehead, which is how I know the angle I hit. It only takes about 7 pounds of force to snap a neck, and I impacted chin first with all ~150 pounds of my body weight from pretty high up.

        I could have largely avoided the chin/face impact if I had put my arms and hands out in front of me, but I would have ended up with broken arms and my handlebars stuck through my gut instead.

        Yes things would have went differently if I had been wearing a helmet, perhaps could have been better, perhaps could have been worse. No way to truly know, and I’m damn skippy not about to try it again.

        The reason that happened was because the ramp wasn’t secured to any sort of frame, it was just a sheet of plywood laid on a ~4 foot high dirt mound. There were 4 of us taking turns ramping, and as my front wheel came off the ramp, the next friend was just hitting the ramp behind me. That caused the plywood to flex, pushing my back wheel upwards as I was leaving the ramp.

        I had a whole second or so to say “OH SHIT!” and decide whether to keep hold of the straight handlebars or not. I didn’t want my handlebars stuck through my gut, so I held the bars.

        Anyways, from that sort of height, chin/face first, I don’t think a helmet would have made all too much of a difference. But if I had been wearing a helmet with a visor, my glasses probably wouldn’t have been jammed into my forehead, which would have meant that my head would have been pushed back at more of an angle. Even the ER doctors noticed that.

        Not saying it’s right, but in my 42 years of life, I’ve never met a bicycle rider that even owns a helmet. To even obtain a helmet, you gotta ride to another city to even get one. And the intersection at that Walmart is one of the absolute most dangerous intersections out there for bike riders. So oddly enough, its safer to avoid the only place we can even get helmets.

        TL;DR - I was 16, doing stupid shit and ramping a rigged up ramp with 3 other friends, and nobody out there wore or even had helmets. What did I learn? Don’t do stupid shit, don’t ramp, keep the wheels on the ground. So I switched to flatland.

    • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.ioOPM
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      5 days ago

      I’m still alive today, because I wasn’t wearing a helmet.

      presses X to doubt

      Helmets (at least when properly designed) absorb impacts and even rotational force with MIPS.

      Also, if you’re doing jumps, you should be wearing a full face MIPS helmet.

      Not only would you not be dead, you might’ve come away completely unharmed (minus a dead helmet).

      A MIPS+Spherical helmet (Bell Super Air R) saved my life last year too.

      Don’t be a dumbass: Wear a helmet.

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        The visor would have broken free way before their neck too. They’re barely held on in the first place.

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        Yo, even the emergency room was surprised I didn’t break my neck. The only reason I didn’t was literally because I didn’t have a helmet on to push my head further backwards.

        I survived a concussion and facial injuries, no broken bones. I would not have survived a broken neck…

        I did stop doing jumps after that though, counted myself lucky, not stupid.

          • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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            It’s like when someone goes on about their friends mom’s college roommate’s sister’s cousin was in an accident and the EMTs and hospital definitely told them they would have died if they were wearing their belt or they died because they were wearing a belt.

            K. You’re still wearing it or you’re getting the fuck out of my car. End of discussion and if you want to keep spouting dumb shit everywhere then we have nothing more to talk about.

            Helmets save lives. Period. Anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.

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              I’ve kicked people out of my car for that shit: An unbuckled idiot is an extreme danger to everyone in the car during a crash.

              IDGAF if their entitled ass doesn’t want to wear a seatbelt, they sure as fuck aren’t putting me at risk because they refuse to use or understand basic safety.

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                Of course I wear a seatbelt when in a vehicle, but we’re not talking about seatbelts nor passengers to even kick out. We’re talking about a bicycle, my bicycle in my case, which I’ll ride however I choose.

                I’m 42 now, been riding bicycles since I was 4. As long as I keep the wheels on the ground and don’t do stupid stuff like ramping, I have never once hit my head.

                Sure I’ve busted my knees, shins and elbows a few times doing flatland balance tricks, so if I went for protective gear, I’d go for the gear I actually need, shin guards, elbow guards, and kneepads.

                If I was so worried about any little chance of busting my head, I’d wear a helmet every time I walk up and down the stairs. Hell, a friend of mine just last month missed a single 4" high step coming out of a gas station and busted his head wide open and needed 10 staples.

                Point is, you can trip and fall practically anywhere, even just on foot. With that said, why don’t pedestrians wear helmets? They’re just as much at risk, especially if walking near or across road traffic…

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                  Do you walk at 20+mph?

                  No, you don’t.

                  Walking and riding a bike are not even remotely close to being the same thing, at all.

                  Are you trolling or what?

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              Did you miss my point about the visor? If I had been wearing a helmet with a visor when that happened, the extra protrusion from the visor sticking out from my forehead would have pushed my head back about an additional 20 degrees and would have snapped my neck.

              Did anyone catch the actual article about the helmet recall? Those helmets have… visors

              I never said helmets are a bad thing, I said helmets with a visor are a bad thing.

              Either way I still would have busted my chin open, that was the initial main point of impact, and I don’t see too many bike helmets out there with chin guards.

              • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.ioOPM
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                You are operating under multiple layers of ignorance and frankly, I just don’t have the energy to correct everything you’ve said but suffice it to say:

                1: Properly designed visors will actually protect you and most definitely will not “break your neck”.

                2: There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of bicycle helmets with chin guards. I would strongly encourage anyone doing jumps, downhill, or even e-bikes at higher speeds to get a good MIPS full face helmet and wear it every time. If you’re going to go faster than 25 frequently it’s probably even time to get a DOT/SNELL certified moto helmet.

                You don’t know what would have actually happened if you were wearing a properly designed helmet because you chose not to wear one, which was an objectively foolish decision no matter how you try to justify it.

                I have no interest in debating this further though, believe whatever you like: It’s your brain to protect (or not).

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                  I was 16, you think I was thinking much back then? Like I said, I’ve since quit ramping. My current bike’s cruising speed is about 11mph, and is a single speed geared low where even at absolute max it simply cannot exceed 24mph.

                  I’m not into racing, If I’m not cruising around 11 to 15 mph, I’m doing BMX flatland balance tricks probably around a mere 5mph.

                  I do thank you for the thoughts and advice though, but you’re assuming I’m going way faster than I usually do. If I somehow manage to hit my head doing anything at 5mph, I’ll just retire from riding altogether.

                  I’m nowhere near as skilled as these riders, but I took lots of inspiration from these professional riders. Note what the pros don’t even use in flatland…

                  https://youtube.com/watch?v=fMOkI4DQm_0

                  Enjoy the video clip, or not, up to you. Have a good day.

    • mysticpickle@lemmy.ca
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      4 days ago

      I’m still alive today, because I wasn’t wearing a helmet.

      Still alive, but with permanent brain damage hehue

      • over_clox@lemmy.world
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        Only minor motor control damage on the right side, for like 2 years, which recovered practically perfectly. The worst I’m left with is a partly numb lower left lip.