cross-posted from: https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/2006492
Fox News appears to have removed their DOW ticker in a pattern for the company, choosing to block out the steep drop in DOW points after Trump’s tariff announcement
Somehow this is the most dystopian thing I’ve witnessed recently. Just straight up disappearing reality once it doesn’t fit the regime’s narrative. Chilling.
War is peace. Truth is lies.
Gave a book club with elderly. Chose 1984 for January.
A woman literally said after we had discussed this that the salute wasn’t the salute.
The Jewish woman next to hers fingernails were about to grip through her own wrist.
Shocking to see the dissonance in real time like this and then.
Next, 1984 will be banned in US
“If we stopped testing we wouldn’t have so many positive cases”
This is hardly new.
Yes thank the nearest Republican to you.
The US is what Americans think China is.
… and they’re not wrong. Now we have two authoritarian world powers, yay!
Trump and Xi both want unlimited terms. Xi got his and Trump is jealous.
To be fair, I wouldn’t be surprised if, had they not removed the ticker, they’d gotten complaints about anti-Trump bias.
Not saying they were justified, but at this point, their viewers are as radical as they are.
We all know that BAD NEWS sells so they must think the crashing stock market is GOOD NEWS.
America’s North Korean propaganda network at it again.
I googled for fox news screenshots, but can’t find any with ticker… I’m confused, where is it usually?
Edit: Found a clip, unfortunately with Trump onscreen here
For convenience here’s a side by side
Citing fox “news” as trusted media source ought to disqualify you from voting. Prove me wrong.
I saw it but I cannot find it. But I recall Fox News admitting they’re not news when pressured for disseminating fake news.
They used it as a defence in court. Multiple times. Something to the effect of “no reasonable person would believe they were being truthful/ serious.”
Edit: apparently this defence was only used for shows like O’Reilly and Tucker Carlson, not the whole channel. Personally I don’t think the average FN viewer would be able to discern the distinction, but who knows.
Multiple times, in multiple court cases. Tucker Carlson argued that no regular viewer would consider his content news or factual.
The fact that they get away with this is infuriating. They should have to put a Surgeon General warning label on the screen like tobacco product have on the package.
“WARNING: This content is for entertainment purposes only. We acknowledge that most of the content presented is not factual, and most of the opinions are not based on reality. This platform was created explicitly as a right-wing propaganda outlet to spin damaging news stories and prevent another Republican from being impeached after Watergate. Viewing the content and opinions presented will leave you less informed than not viewing any content at all”
I feel like it’s a very Fox News-y suggestion to ban select groups of people from voting.
I agree to a certain extent, but what’s become clear to me as I get older, is that democracy represents the will of the electorate, and when your democracy is setup to give the dumbest 50% of the electorate the most representation, shit falls apart.
If we want a progressive, effective, and beneficial government, then we need an electorate that will vote for it. For a while, we’ve tried providing education and mostly free information access to the populace so they can make informed decisions, but it’s evident that the voters don’t care for that. The only other way to get past that information apathy is to eliminate their representation.
I don’t expect this to be a morally defensible position, but more “if we want to survive as a nation, we need to do something about people living in an alternate reality formed by regressive hate propaganda”.
In reality, “Democracy” as invented by the Greeks was never intended to be held by the uneducated. Ever citizen got a vote, but frankly not everyone was a citizen.
The rights of a citizen came with certain expectations, and that included knowledge of the Ars Liberalis, or “Liberal Arts”, which…far from today’s demonized meaning created in order to attack higher learning, literally translated in the greek world as “the exercise of freedom”.
In other words, citizenship and voting rights obligated a person to be knowledgeable of things like Logic, History, Rhetoric, etc… You TRAINED to partake in the affairs of state just like you would prepare for any other task that requires skill and THAT was what granted you the priviledge of citizenship. (Well…that an being part of the wealthy class…)
Modern “Democracy” is predicated on the opposite; not just citizens that are ill-informed, but citizens that are so intellectually incurious that they can’t be bothered to exercise their right properly.
Absolutely.
I don’t think the qualifications for voting should be “white wealthly land-owning men”, but there has to be a filter we can use to validate that the person voting as at least 2 brain cells.
I’d like to have a basic test with blanket true/false statements around recent political talk… Maybe things like…
The 2020 election was conducted fairly without significant evidence of fraud that could have changed the result.
Vaccines have a direct and undeniable link to autism and long term damage.
Tariffs are an export tax paid by the country sending the product to another country.
Individuals with visas and green cards are not illegal immigrants.
Just a quick test like that, and then weight the vote based on how many statements they identififed correctly as True or false.
You need a way to prevent this from being corrupted. Conservatives would love to use this to prevent black folks from voting. They’re single minded and will chip away at it for decades.
Perhaps honey pots? Set up fake meetings to discuss how to prevent “those people” from voting, and everyone who attends is barred from working in government for life.
Sounds more like we need to more heavily regulate sources of misinformation, rather than deeming some people too stupid to participate in the system.
The same Constitution that upholds the right to vote is the same one that protects freedom of speech. I consider both options equally damaging to the underlying fabric of this country. The point being that republicans are already eroding the foundations of this nation to poison our water and air, shift wealth from the poorest people up to the richest, steal the money we’ve put aside for social services, and implement a Christian theocracy. It’s happening, so we might as well throw out the constitution as well, but use that gap to build a society where people are protected from discrimination because of immutable characteristics, and that builds for the long-term health, wellness and safety of it’s citizens.
My local fox news is actually pretty good at reporting basic local news, it is the national programs that are foaming at the mouth propaganda.
All they’re trying to do there is control the narrative for local news. When it’s not beneficial for them to spread propaganda they won’t. They should still carry the warning. That station can either de-affiliate with Fox, or actual local news can fill the gap.
Ah, peak Trumpism. “If we ignore it, it goes away!”
This is such classic Fox bullshit. I’m reminded of FOX News changing the Party ID of Republicans they don’t like to “Democrat”.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mistake-fox-news-identifi_n_85656
fox is pretty comedic unintentionally
Another bloodbath day on the DJI:
A British owned tabloid posing as an Irish paper reporting on American news. There aren’t many worse sources.
As an old fart I’ve never lived under an administration that I considered a real threat. Even Reagan, who was raged against by the left and beloved by the right, at least had some restraint and considered his actions. Each president did something that I didn’t like but I never felt like psychopaths had taken over and were just letting their whims and manias run rampant. Their personalities also felt reasonable and at the very least respectful of others. I also never felt that a large chunk of my fellow citizens were a threat to democracy. The evangelicals were always that way but felt like a fringe group before.
Reagan’s just took time to poison the system. Everything we’re seeing now is from that time period, built up.
Hell of a thing, ain’t it? I remember the tail end of Regan as a child. I come from evangelicals, these are the sort of events I would expect them to freak out about, but instead, they’re willingly along for the ride.
Reminds me of how his administration stopped reporting on COVID testing. Obviously if you suck at something, you should just not tell anyone, even if it affects the entire American constituency in a massively dangerous way.
That wouldn’t stop the market crashing.
If a stock falls in the market when there’s no ticker watching, does it go red?
Well, if you don’t look at the problem, it goes away. It’s not rocket surgery!
“If we don’t record COVID numbers, there will be nothing to report!”
“If we don’t track the number of people dying by gun violence, there will be nothing to report.”
“If we don’t count the number of people dying in our overheated prisons, there will be nothing to report.”
Fox ‘news’*: anything I disagree with is terrorism, trump isn’t a bigoted idiot tanking the economy, there’s no class war, we’re just entertainment not news 🤡
I bet once the markets come back up after he lifts those tariffs again, the ticker will be back.
Just in time for the next election
Last time (1930) it took down the US economy, you threw out the Republicans and President Hoover, and the Democrats under Roosevelt had to fix the mess, which finally happened about 1934. Since then it is textbook established that tariffs are a stupid idea, but sadly the only historical books the orange turd reads are “Mein Kampf”…
This modern tariff-induced catastrophe is different from the one in 1930 in one important aspect: Back then, the reliance on foreign trade was way, way smaller than today. If the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 put the US into a serious recession (with still lower tariffs than Trumps!), guess what will happen today in an America that cannot produce screws, bolts and nuts; transistors, resistors, and capacitors; and about every piece of mass-produced item, being it plastic, metal, or whatever.
There’s no coming back from this. You are delusional.
You came back from the last Republican tariffs caused chaos from 1930. I never said recovery would happen in our lifetimes.
