The Trump administration is considering new restrictions on the Chinese AI lab DeepSeek that would limit it from buying Nvidia’s AI chips and potentially bar Americans from accessing its AI services, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.
… the foreign-hosted servers, or the models themselves?
There are lingering questions, however, around whether DeepSeek engaged in IP theft to create some of its more competitive models.
They did, just like everybody else.
OpenAI has alleged that the Chinese lab distilled its models, violating OpenAI’s terms of use.
Oh that’s fucking rich.
competition is the best thing for market forces except when the competition is from a country that makes a competitive model that runs significantly cheaper or electric cars that are much better than any of Americas offerings
Yeah it is easy to make things cheaper by making it so that factory workers have only one day off a month, with 7 day work weeks.
The whole point of US and European companies moving manufacturing to China.
With some things I get there is a national security risk.
However, we are taking about an AI model
Ive tried DeepSeek, it’s not even that good. ChatGPT, Google, and even Grok are better and offer more features, like image generation and web search, while DeepSeek only has chat (and reasoning, but all the others have that too now).
The only thing DeepSeek has going for it is that they released their models for free so you can run them on your own hardware if you want.
that’s a big fucking benefit though
You mean being able to run them locally? Sure, if you got the hardware to do it. The full size model is a whopping 404 GB, good luck running that on consumer hardware.
I run the 16b version. It works fine on my laptop on the CPU.
Sure, that’ll work. It’s just not as smart as the full version.
Deepseek is much better than anything else I’ve ran. It has an inner monolog which allows it to solve more complex problems.
ChatGPT and Grok have that too now. It’s called “Reason” (ChatGPT) or “Think” (Grok).
You can’t run those locally though so that doesn’t natter much
I guess I forgot what community I’m in 🤦♂️
All good
How exactly would they ban them? DNS poisoning?
I’m not sure if the title is clickbait… Because that’s not in the following text. The article says they want to ban Nvidia from selling more hardware to them. It doesn’t say anything about limiting availability of the service or anything.
If they do, my best guess is they do it like with TikTok. Change their stance on everything several times and then they don’t really enforce anything.
