Discord: becomes affiliated with perpetrators of mass violence, but nobody cares

KF: becomes affiliated with more petty harassers, and everyone wants them gone

  • Trilobyte@feddit.uk
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    24 hours ago

    No normal person is going to defend Kiwifarms as a “free speech” site. Based on more reliable sources that talk about Kiwifarms, the sign up process involves a CAPTCHA of some sort which contains multiple slurs, and users have to agree with this before they can join. Users sign up knowing full well what the aim of the site is. Leni defended Kiwifarms as a free speech site on her Lemmy account. Kiwifarms is a hate speech site and conflating the two is another thing that gave Leni away (as if Leni minimizing the harm Kiwifarms has done as “more petty harassment” in the OP of this thread wasn’t also eyebrow-raising). Leni posted two links to Kiwifarms threads, both only go to posts by “MoeAnguish”. No mention of MoeAnguish being an impersonator. MoeAnguish is the only Kiwifarms poster who linked the Lemmy thread I made and referenced things I said in the first person. There’s no implication at all that she’s being impersonated.

    Kiwifarms users are known for their trolling, manipulation and lying, though. It’s kind of part of their whole playbook.

    • CraigOhMyEggoAlt@lemmy.wtf
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      2 days ago

      I’m sure her angle is there is a difference between defending a website’s history and defending the mere act of happening to be on it.

      You also answered your own confusion about the free speech thing.

      • Trilobyte@feddit.uk
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        24 hours ago

        “It was made for an angle of free speech” is her direct quote, which is a blatant lie as Kiwifarms was made for hate speech. Conflating hate speech with free speech is, to put it lightly, eyebrow raising. The only people I’ve seen do that are other Kiwifarmers besides her, alt-right fanatics, and bigots.

        • CraigOhMyEggoAlt@lemmy.wtf
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          That quote literally cannot be found anywhere.

          The whole defense for hate speech is free speech, but I’m guessing she doesn’t mean hate speech. You’ll have to ask her if I am wrong if you think I might be.

          Sources say she is on there specifically to monitor the site when they mention her friends, with some in-between dialogue which has her use the site vocabulary in a tone that isn’t meant to be synonymous with her agreeing with their extremism.

          May I also remind you that Lemmy not only advocates assassination but even sponsors it (not in the money sense)?

          • Trilobyte@feddit.uk
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            23 hours ago

            That quote literally cannot be found anywhere.

            This is another lie from you.

            Proof: https://archive.ph/CrAUJ

            Scroll down. Leni’s comment is there.

            Sources say

            There are no sources. This is something you made up just now to try and get out of being exposed for being a Kiwifarms member, even though you defended it as a free speech site on your main account, Call Me Leni.

            You seem to now be trying out a new method of lying/manipulating people by banning your Call Me Leni account from one of your own communities via your ShiverMeTimbers account, to promote a wild conspiracy in the modlog reason box that dozens of different admins are all banding together and banning you for being autistic (which is a new claim from you). https://lemmy.ca/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=14969838 fortunately it is possible on Lemmy to see which mod banned whom. That wasn’t very bright of you.

            Modlog for your ShiverMeTimbers alt: “Alt of Malicious user @[email protected]https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=10474742

            Worth pointing out that your ShiverMeTimbers alt created a machiavellianism community, as well, and the content of the sidebar is also quite eyebrow-raising: https://lemm.ee/c/machiavellianism (Archive)

            This is a community where those who seek to be manipulative or discuss manipulation can come to discuss themselves and ways they bent norms and rules. If that sounds crazy to you, there is a rationale and it isn’t necessarily illegal or immoral, in fact it’s arguably the opposite. Suppose you live in a world where you are everyone’s target, and they’re willing to engage in hypocrisy if it means fulfilling this. You cannot fight back, you are only one individual and you will lose. You cannot leave. You cannot stand to sit through it. What do you do? You find loopholes and put their tactics in such a position that they are fooled or swayed against each other. Imagine there are anonymous reporters who falsely report both SWAT and the CPS on you. Though this example is borderline illegal, as is reporting them on you, a machiavellian is the one who puts them in a position where they meet up in your home and go after each other. Machiavellianism is the martial arts of the mind, the Karate Kid for people who cannot rely on their bodies. Please note that, in order to honor Lemmy, anything that’s actually aligned with criminality will be banned, as will the posters.

            Anywho, thanks for proving my point that Kiwifarms users like to lie and manipulate people.

            I’m off. Toodles

            • flamingos-cant@feddit.uk
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              2 days ago

              https://feddit.uk/post/28825432/17190982

              This link only works for you and admins. Others will just see an error page.

              Btw, don’t down vote the same comments with your alts, some instances run scripts to look for this behaviour and ban people.

              I also don’t get why you’re feeding the trolls like this, a simple report like ‘Cell me Leni alt’ would suffice.