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Ohh they’re not ignoring it. They want to go back because of it.
Hold up. Rewind.
They used to sign fault during a divorce? What the hell?
Why was that ever a thing?
No fault divorce isn’t about assigning blame. They actually still do that in certain situations, such as adultery or abuse. No fault divorce means that the state will allow a divorce even if no one is to “blame.” Prior to that, you essentially needed a legal reason to get a divorce other than “I just want to be married to this person anymore.”
Even if both people wanted a divorce they would have to do something like fake an affair. The husband could hire a hooker and the wife would hire a P.I. to “discover” the indiscretion.
The elite and religion (same thing) need more babies
Why would the goal be to make women miserable? Like what’s the point?
To get back at them for what Eve did in the Bible. (I’m only partly kidding.)
No fault divorce is a no brainer.
Funny enough the people that don’t support it have no brain so I’m not so sure
Or maybe they’re just evil down to their core
The GOP is for gender equality by raising female suicide rates to match male ones.
Equal Opportunity Misery
May I recommend The Way We Never Were for real insight into earlier American life and families.
no fault divorce ruined the private investigator industry
Yes, it is their goal, which is why they have to be killed.
What people seem to have also forgotten is the amount of righteous murder that was going on. https://youtu.be/Gw7gNf_9njs
The Good Old Days they always refer to is the world where Adult White Christian Males get to rule the world, do whatever they want, say whatever they want, everyone is subservient to them and every other race, religion, identity, minority and female is below them.
It really is pathetic when you think about it. Such a desire to have people beneath them…
Don’t they know that this is still true, as long as you’re part of the owner class?
It’s not as conspiratorial as that.
- Politician: We’ll make it like the good old days
- Voter remembering their childhood: I remember that, life was so simple.
- Politician: …so vote for me.
All the voters are voting for their own individual fantasies. The politician just wants the votes. This is just dirty populist games.
Mild fascism was always “okay” in colonial-settler history. It was only when the Nazis went full fascist and started attacking other Europeans for either not buying into their world view or for having impure Slavic or Mediterranean blood did shit hit the fan.
For many of these regressionists, going back hinges on the ascension of neo Nazism.
I wish they were honest about their selfishness, at least it’s logically consistent. I’ll take that over their cult like thinking.
Suicides in women in the 1950s and 1960s were actually lower than what they were in the 1980’s, so this is a bullshit comparison tweet, where the 1970s happened to have the highest rate and the tweeter is putting a causation to the numbers that may not even have direct causation. I could just as easily claim that vehicle fuel economy improving during the 70’s caused a decrease in female suicides.
Female suicides hit its lowest at around 2000 before trending upwards again.
And then VTEC kicked in yo, and female suicides skyrocketed
Lol. Right? What was that, like 1997? VTEC makes women kill themselves.
While I can’t necessarily disagree with your correlation≠causation argument…
I could just as easily claim that vehicle fuel economy improving during the 70’s caused a decrease in female suicides.
Better gas mileage probably contributed a more than zero amount to that decrease.
You could very well be right, but it’s just impossible to control for such variables, so we can’t say one way or the other with a degree of certainty. Especially considering that a 20% swing in numbers consists of a mere 1 or 2 people per 100,000 difference.
source for the suicide stat: https://www.statista.com/statistics/187478/death-rate-from-suicide-in-the-us-by-gender-since-1950/
So the suicide rate for both genders actually significantly dropped right after 1970. Wonder what’s that about?
Living in a relationship that you don’t want to live in, and having no way out except death.
What’s to understand?
Surely its so simple.
They won’t give a shit about female suicide.
Point out homicide of male partners dropped 70% and you may get their self-involved attention
Women weren’t allowed to open a bank account in the states until the 70’s
There is a good chance grandma didn’t leave grandpa because she literally couldn’t
And women who had “hysteria” were given lobotomies.
Theres a reason there is still a large cohort of older folks to follow the taboo on therapy: “I’m not crazy, I don’t need therapy”. Because in the good ole days they just locked and chained up or lobotomized anyone with divergence.
Yeah, stop spreading this misinformation. The Credit Act of 1974 made it illegal to discriminate in banking and credit but there was nothing preventing women from having bank accounts before 1974.
1862 California passed a law allowing women to open their own bank accounts without a male signature.
My grandmother and mother both had bank accounts in the 60s in their names, along with home mortgage and business accounts, with no other signatures other than their own.
there was nothing preventing women from having bank accounts before 1974.
Depending on which banks were available in her area, she may still have been unable to open a credit card despite it being legal to do so. Prior to 1974, it was legal for banks to require a man’s signature for a woman to open a credit card, and many banks chose to require this. According to this article from the Smithsonian Magazine, some banks also applied a 50% reduction to womens’ wages when calculating the credit card limit for an applicant.
I agree that the facts are very frequently misrepresented.
“Maybe”?
The kind of people who want to end no fault divorce don’t actually care about female suicide.
Warn them that men’s life expectancy dramatically increased due to no fault divorce. Because a woman trapped in a bad marriage kills her husband.
If the husband is MAGA, then why the fuck not?
Because killing people is wrong? Wtf. Did you miss the Nazi gathering?
If it’s MAGA Nazis dying? I don’t think Nazis dying is wrong. Sorry if that offends you.
So I’m an older lady, and when I was young, I was told many interesting things by women who were quite old (at the time.)
My mother’s family is from Siciliy.
Anyway all I’m saying is this sort of thing happened a lot, and if necessary, it will happen again.
Coincidentally, I’m almost 40 and have never married… but I haven’t been single in many, many years. Those stories will stick with ya, and there’s no need for divorce where there’s no marriage.
Till death do us part.
Why are looking at me like that!?
This is kind of a bullshit statistic.
Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.
So really the “drop” was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970’s was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.
Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.
I’ve read multiple times that women attempt suicide just as much. If not more than men, men are just better at being successful
:: TW- Somewhat graphic discussion of suicide
There’s fascinating data that explains that the reason men are more successful is because they suicide in a more violent fashion, and women tend to do things like poisoning.
“Women may be more likely to take others into consideration, and looking at suicide in the context of relationships may give women less incentive to want to die as it will cause others emotional harm. That may also be why they choose less violent methods of suicide to avoid traumatizing those who will grieve their loss.”
There are a lot of other reasons why the methods might be different. There are a lot of opinions on it. But of the people I’ve lost to suicide, a couple of women intentionally overdosed and left a note out where the family could find it indicating where they’d left their body so they didn’t have to come collect it themselves, or there was one who locked herself in the bathroom with a note on that door… and of the men it was hanging or a shotgun to the face in the woods behind his house. (Which resulted in the neighbor kids finding his body. Not cool.)
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Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.
Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70’s is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70’s due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
Seems legit. That’s a pretty inspirational song.
Ikr?
Statistics on women’s health from the 50s is probably as reliable as using a Billy Joel song.
Then so would statistics from the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s. You don’t like hearing what the actual data is because it doesn’t fit with your own predetermined narrative, so it must be the data that’s wrong. Sounds a lot like Trump. He only believes the polls that claim people love him.
I guess you really want to believe those were the “good ol days”. Go ahead. Just be glad you weren’t a women then.
Don’t try to defer the discussion or strawman off. I just pointed out that the tweets information is bullshit.
Sure, just pointing out that health stats from the 50s are bullshit.
